I recently had my second guest appearance on the Michael Hart show. Michael and I had a rousing conversation about Fraud and other things that business leaders can do to protect themselves from making the mistakes of past CEOs.

I hope you enjoy these links, which will allow you to listen to the two segments of the show.

Lee Katz Part One

Lee Katz Part Two

There wasn’t a lot of time for call-ins or listener comments, but I’d love to know what you think and if you have any questions or comments.